The Essential Accessory to Customize Your Rifle Started on 42 inches of concrete in an off-grid cabin, Ken Wittekiend started Witt Machine & Tool making four muzzle brakes a day. In the event that the rifle isnt moving rearwards at all it isnt trying to rotate at all and the muzzle WILL be driven downwards by the comp. Its caused by rearwards recoil and is a combination of the shooters torso leaning backwards (pivoting on the hips or feet, which will make a rifle solidly mounted to ones shoulder point skywards), the rifle rolling up the curve of the shoulder, and the rifle pivoting around its center of mass (or moment of inertia), which is lower than the bore axis so that means its going to rotate muzzle up and stock down. I would also like to see the APA Gen II Little Bastard. Quick view View Options. Dont want to hate shooting it afterwards because of the noise increase though. The rest is the result of accelerating the bullets inertia. The total mass times its velocity would be the same. The rock wasnt ideal and it looked even less scientific than the POS haha. Like 1/8 and thats an extreme scenario because it went from pushing down relatively hard to actually lifting the handguard of the rifle off the rest Plus the plastic-on-plastic is pretty slippery. Hybrid devices are also available, which combine the practical effects of two or more of these devices into a single unit. The rifle is held to the sled by means of the pistol grip being braced against the rear wall of the tub part and a strap around the buttstock thats below the buffer tube. Length:2.35 Weight:3.51 oz Each port has a round hole in the middle that diverges outwards into the Y shapes visible on the outside. Say you load two loads with very fast powder and very slow powder to the same muzzle velocity, would they still rank the same? The Lantac would reduce recoil better if 1) the baffles were larger 2) the bore through the baffles were smaller (it would strip off and catch more gas rather than letting it blow through the bore) 3) the baffles angled rearwards a bit. Id love to see the Griffin M4SD added. While I really like the reduction of recoil, I am thinking about going in another direction or back to my PWS. Same with most neighbors on the range. Honestly if they arent readily available for purchase then Id probably pass. If the 3 baffle brakes outperform the 2 baffle brakes as a class, I wonder if 4 baffle brakes would be better or just gianter 3 baffle brakes. Thunder Beast: 30CB Muzzle Brake, 3/4x28 - .30 cal. Hmmm? Performance is also nothing short of incredible given the extremely compact size and light weight. SJC Titan, What Smith one? The Thunder Beast CB "Compact Brake" for use on TBAC CB series suppressors: , 30CB5, and 223CB. MSRP:$64. I gotta say man, its good knowing Im not the only obsessive (so Ive been called) guy about firearm parts and mainly reviews. Factor in that the Dragon also reduces muzzle rise and you have a very stong performer over the competition. Diameter(at largest point): 1.11 Theres some interesting design there that cant be CNCed. The asking price should be adjusted to reflect this and, indeed, Troys options are on the affordable end of the spectrum with many linear comps coming in over 2x the price. I couldnt get through to the Bastards for this test . You mean the Rolls Royce (later lisenced by Packard) Merlin inverted V12 that was used to power the P-51 Mustang (that originally used the underpowered Allison V-1710 V12)? OVERALL LENGTH: 1.64 inches Well I no longer have the CRD so cant physically confirm fit. PHONE: (416) 742-1936 FAX: (416) 742-6056. Material: 1144 stressproof steel If it wasnt, the JuggerBrake wouldnt have moved at all hahaha, Uh Ohnew kid on the block with some hefty claims: a) smith, b) JP recoil eliminator c) Vias and d) 12 gage shotgun review. I purchased PA M4-72 for my most recent build. Finish:melonited Theres really no difference among any of the brakes that do need to be timed (a 27-way tie). JP Compensators Bennie Cooley Standard-Profile: Available in a bunch of sizes to match your caliber and barrel diameter, plus in matte black or polished stainless finish to match your aesthetic preference. Thanks! The first 5.56 muzzle brake test is HERE, the third is HERE, the first 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, the second 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, and the first .308 brake test HERE. Also no surefire brakes, whats up with that? MSRP:$89.95. The only thing I would suggest to improve this great write-up is to put the ranking and recoil distance of each brake in its entry next to weight and length and cost and such. MSRP:$89.99. If he really works for Lantac, that makes me not want to buy a Lantac product. Weight:3.26 oz First off I LOVE both your muzzle brake videos and flash hider video. It features a taper mount shoulder to align with Q barrels and silencers, uses a 1/2 inch socket on the front for easy install and removal, and features 360 circumferential ports to alleviate the need for timing and shims. MSRP:$89.95. Just a total guess there, though, as Im sure the other factors previously mentioned certainly had a hand as well. Poke a small hole in the center of the plastic membrane (hot needle?) It also has very minimal flash with the same, quality machining and standard, parkerized-looking finish. Thunder Beast Arms Corporation [TBAC] Sound Suppressors * for Tactical, Sporting & Competition Use. . Tied for eighth, its performance is also really great, despite registering below average on the concussion and blast scale. Recoil reduction isnt an issue IMO, but muzzle rise is. Finish is flawless. We got a SCAR 17 barrel in the shop so we tested every muzzle device that we sell. Length: Will there be more tests in the future for vertical recoil reduction and noise/blast level? I like to make data driven decisions, and I have a spreadsheet on every conceivable accessory I might need for my .308. Awesome stuff Jeremy! The new TBAC CB series brakes can be used with the older 30BA and 30BAs suppressors with the CB2BA adapter. Ive got a Levang on my AR, and was torn between this or the Troy Claymore? Finish:BLACKNITRIDE, satin finish (also available in bead blasted or raw machinedstainless) Ionbond finish. 8 models Battle Arms Development AR-15/AR-10 Gas Tube (4) As Low As (Save Up to 21% . The Cerakote finish is nice and even. Something for everyone The uber tacticool guy gets the best performer with money being no object. Weight reduces recoil, so its fair to pit all recoil-reducing devices against each other regardless of weight or material. The Cherry Bomb by Q is a Quickie Fast-Attach muzzle brake compatible with the THUNDER CHICKEN and trash PANDA silencers by Q.It features our taper mount shoulder to align with our barrels and silencers, uses a 1/2 inch socket on the front for easy install and removal, and features 360 circumferential ports to alleviate the need for timing and shims. The new AFAB thats Advanced Flash Arresting Brake takes the old design to a slightly more extreme level, with deeper grooves and a baffle pattern inside the bore. Shooting standard 5.56 ammo with 55 grain load. http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/TROMIX_308_SAIGA_SHARK_RIFLE_BRAKE_COMPENSATOR_p/trx-308shark.htm. Their company had a lot of gear at the Connecticut swat challenge so I spoke with some reps of theirs. MSRP:$100. So, have it clamped down at the pistol grip and somewhere on the forearm and the forearm. Connect with us on Facebookto get all our updates. Whens part 3 and the .308 data coming out?! Click on the image below for a printable PDF. The number of openings varies 5 on the right and left, although in different order, and 3 on the bottom to compensate for muzzle rise and movement. Finish:Ionbond CrCN orbead blast Fairly decent consistency, really (like 3% or less difference test-to-test), except for the Mini-Comp. It surprised me with a pretty stellar performance on the recoil rig and it seems to keep the muzzle really steady as well, so if youre a fan of its looks in either machined stainless or black stainless, Id say its a solid choice. As a Patron you can also get free stuff, join live streams, gain early access, and more. It features a unique, removable "Anchor Brake" on the end of it, which basically acts as a muzzle brake to further reduce recoil. Miller Precision Arms Hammerhead I know it would refer to the wind and even if its not 100% of the devices, its relatively associated enough for me to want to see how they do. You should have the vais muzzle brake on there. This thing is pretty dang solid and I hope to see Precision Armament releasing versions of it for more powerful calibers where it will be appreciated even more. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thunder Beast Arms CB Muzzle Brake, .223, 1/2x28 at the best online prices at eBay! The bottom line is as a shooter and customer I am going to use what works best with no thought to fairness or partiality. Diamondhead T-BRAKE. Its a cast piece so it has a rough, matte feel and appearance but its decently clean with no obvious flaws. Diameter(at largest point): 0.86 The author has done a great amount of valuable work. If one company feels like reducing recoil by making a 20-lb muzzle brake, thats probably an effective way to reduce recoil so it belongs here. On the other hand, it might provide ideas for companies to mass produce something similar or take design queues from, etc. . I know the price is way up there. We Service all Gas/ Hybrid Makes and Models, and have the Skills, Experience and Tools to Perform Quality, Guaranteed Repairs Every Time Established in 2010. I am not a scientist. Weight:3.65 oz Still, glad Jeremy took the time, very informative. Specifically, 24 muzzle devices threaded 5/8-24 for use with .30 caliber cartridges joined in the fun, all of them getting tested for recoil reduction prowess on a .308. I have the #2 winner from the first test, and presumably still #2 winner of both, the JP Recoil Eliminator (the one that looks like a tank brake) on my $2500 gun but I have the cheap amazon one on my $500 AR15 and love it. . Weight:25 oz Finish:nitride Finish:black oxide Its a fairly weird thing not to have. Its good to see real comparative tests done by an independent reviewer. Some engineering types claim that ~74% of the rearwards recoil energy is from the gasses. . Ill try again for next time and if theres a budget for it (and they aint cheap), theyll be on the list as one to purchase. Can you post a link to your 1st test so I can access it easily? Material: steel If you have a reliable contact for them let me know, as Id happily include one or two in the next test if theyll donate or loan them. Brake vs FH is pretty subjective, its going to depend on the person and the rifle and the purpose of the rifle, but brakes certainly arent useless. TBAC 223CB, TBAC 30CB5, TBAC 30CB7, TBAC 30CB9, TBAC Ultra 7CB, TBAC Ultra 9CB, 13729 Research Blvd Suite 630 Austin, TX 78750. I been looking at 2 and here are the 2 i been looking at ( SJC Titan Compensator, .223 Stainless Steel )( V-POWER Muzzle Brake/Compensator ) so what should I go with and if there is another one that is better then those, please let me knowthank you, You left the DPMS Miculek out of the final data? Ill probably take you up on it, but my guess is that a 3rd test wouldnt take place until the end of August or so. In principle, yes, from conservation of momentum, if all gas could be directed straight backwards, it doesnt matter how many baffles are doing that job. The effectiveness of the M4-72, and every other brake we have tried was not relevant until the ability to maintain sight picture and make a follow up shot was observed. 3. those three all rank 27, and then the next one would be 30 which would probably be the *correct* way to do it. Im looking for something better than an A2 birdcage on an AUG (5.56mm, 1/2-28), thats going to give DECENT compensation with the least sideways concussion. Right at the top of over 65 examples. And the last, potentially most valuable, use a sum of stack ranks to determine which brake has overall the best reduction and lowest cost. Killin me! A steady muzzle means steady sights, and steady sights means fast, accurate shooting. Weight:2.22 oz . (The Quiet Brake). The only one in this test that has that flange is the Strike Industries King Comp. Again though, recoil reduction is only one of many variables worth considering and how theyre each weighted is a matter of personal opinion and/or intended use when choosing which muzzle device will adorn ones rifle. If you let the recoil lean your shoulders back, the gun will rotate and the downwards force from the comp will fall somewhere on the spectrum of too much, just right, or not enough depending on the balance of the gun and how sharply it moves rearwards and the pressure of the gasses at the muzzle and etc etc etc. I cant imagine how frustrated everyone would be if a brake did incredibly well but cant be acquired haha. Material: 416 stainless steel Yes, a muzzle brake or comp can try to compensate for typical rotational forces by directing gasses upwards and therefore driving the muzzle downwards. I have endorsements from many Navy Seals, my company is co owned by Larry Lasky the CEO of Froglube based in Wellington Nevada. Thunder Beast: 30CB Muzzle Brake, 5/8x24 - .30 cal Thunder Beast. gmail, Jeremy, its time for Round #3 now. Finish:black nitride Despite the name, its really a linear compensator and it does an excellent job of sending blast, concussion, and sound forwards. We out it on a rifle that is used in 3gun. Thank you sir. Brake Threads: 1/2-28, 5/8-24, 9/16-24, 3/4-24, 3/4-28, M18x1.0, M18x1.5, M15x1.0 (RH) . The just right muzzle brake would be the one with the least flex either up or down. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Keep in mind that were also talking about the fairly minor recoil of .223/5.56 here, and many prospective purchasers will put recoil reduction at the bottom of their list behind other considerations like aesthetics, price, flash, concussion, etc. Sorry, I tried to explain in the text: a performance (percentage reduction in recoil) per dollar graph So thats what it is. Diameter(at largest point): 0.86 All of the data I have access to is included in this test so everybody can compared these devices based on what they care most about recoil reduction, weight, length, diameter, price, etc. Thunder Technologies Muzzle Brake (Persuader) Ralph Pedroza 1 subscriber Subscribe 148 views 5 years ago 5.56 Heartbrake Persuader Muzzlebrake (Black Finish) My bad, crush washer is listed on web. How much does the bcg affect recoil? Army scientists have developed a combination suppressor and muzzle brake that keeps. Muzzle Brakes & Compensators Up to 78% Off from Precision Armament, TRYBE Defense, Strike Industries everyday on 792 Products at OpticsPlanet.com. At least nothing commercially available and relatively affordable. Plus, at $89.99, its beating out most of its high-quality competition on price as well, and by a big margin in many cases. There should be 3 categories if winners however. Length:2.225 Well, after more R&D and time on its CFD program, Precision Armament has deprecated the AFAB-Mini and has replaced it with the AFAB-556 seen below. Not sure if something like the AFAB would be best, or if theres something with less blast thats almost as good in steadying the muzzle. Create an Account; Login; Create an Account; Cart (0) View Cart; Checkout; I mean, what number would I assign to the J-Comp, for instance, that ranked slightly differently in each test? First let me say these are amazing articles and the information has really helped to change my mind about not wanting a muzzle device beyond the A2 birdcage.There are a few of the comps I would be interested in knowing their flash suppression numbers (OSS Tech BANNAR Alpha 1, Ares Armor EFFIN-A, Manticor Arms NightBreak, Houlding Precision Irish Curse) but I have a hard time believing that any of them provide a better balance than the AFAB or EFAB. For example you ranked the MR-72 best. a heavy magazine that causes the vertical center of mass to be like at the level of the bottom of the trigger guard), when it fires its going to rotate around the center of mass. Actually I just picked up a M4-72 based on this review and my conversations with the owners. Its a solid performer for recoil reduction as well as muzzle control, and the end user can dial in more muzzle rise compensation by opening up that top port with a hand drill. A strong, runner-up showing for the DoubleStar! 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